Seth Explains How and Why We All Elected Donald Trump for President

I have restrained myself from blogging too soon after the election because I wanted to make sure I was calm, clear-minded, and appropriately reflective before I did. The day after the election, I had to talk a few crying people off the ledge. And I was feeling kind of numb and shocked myself.

I have to say that my understanding of Seth’s philosophy has helped me tremendously. Not only does it explain the rise of Trump and Trumpism (see my earlier blog on Trumpism here, but it also outlines next steps that could help us mold a good probable outcome starting from where we are today.

As the exit polls revealed, everyone who voted for Trump did not necessarily like him, believe him, or endorse all of his ideas. Many people voted for him despite their misgivings.

Why? It seems clear that they were trying to make a statement about the “system,” which includes the government, corporate America, the “elites”, the media, and the “establishment,” in general. I made a list of the words that have been used to describe their emotional attitudes, which includes:

  • fear
  • anger
  • despair
  • hopelessness
  • disdain
  • revulsion

These people felt that the system was so broken, so stuck, and so irreparable that only someone as brash, outrageous, and iconoclastic as Trump would have the nerve and the audacity to knock it all down. As far as I can tell, electing Trump was equivalent to them  giving the whole world the finger.

Yes Trump’s campaign did indeed unleash some apparent racists, misogynists, and paranoids which we will have to deal with. But beyond that subset, whatever its size, I believe the majority were really saying that the status quo was no longer tolerable and they acted in the only way that they felt empowered to.

Now, before we move on to Seth’s comments, let’s take a quick look at the Clinton supporters. Again, the exit polls showed that there was still a great deal of reluctance in choosing Clinton because of personal distrust, wariness of her corporate connections and involvement with big money interests, and her overly political cautiousness in terms of policy. During the campaign we saw within the Democratic Party a similar populist uprising to the one on the Republican side, with many of the Bernie Sanders voters indicating that they also thought the system was broken.

Now that Trump has won, there have been protests, outcries, and all kinds of fears and worries expressed by the public, the mainstream media, and social media. I decided, once again, to make a list of the words that were being used to describe the emotional states of the distraught Clinton voters. My list included:

  • fear
  • sadness
  • despair
  • hopelessness
  • anger
  • disdain
  • revulsion

Isn’t it interesting that my two lists are almost identical?

Now, for Seth’s take on the situation. . .

If you look to The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events (Amber-Allen, 1981/1995), which will be my source for this entire blog, I contend that you can find everything you need to understand what is happening.

First of all, this election was and is a very powerful mass event–one that people from around the world, not just Americans, have followed and participated in on various levels. As you know, Seth says repeatedly and forcefully that we all create our own reality, individually and collectively. We could have chosen from an infinite number of probabilities, and yet this is what we all created together.

As you know, Seth says that every event we experience has its origins in Framework 2 and that Framework 2 is a mental space where all thoughts are known, all information is contained, and in which all probabilities can be analyzed at lightning speed. Our thoughts in Framework 1 (our  physical world) feed into Framework 2; there, they mix and merge to direct the probabilities of our mass reality.

Now think about the two lists above. Americans of all stripes are pouring fear, anger, disdain, hopelessness, despair, revulsion, and sadness onto the vast, mostly unconscious, mental palette that is Framework 2. The psychological climate, in other words, is extremely turbulent. A major drama was bound to unfold from that condition.

You may be able to accept this much from Seth’s teachings. But there’s more that he says about Framework 2 that may be a bit more difficult to swallow.

You cannot gain what you want at someone else’s detriment, then. You cannot use Framework 2 to force an event upon another person. Certain prerequisites must be met, you see, before a desired end can become physically experienced. (p. 76)

In other words, we were all in agreement on this. What? How can I–not a Trump supporter–believe that this outcome wasn’t forced upon me? I can hardly imagine someone I’d less like to see as the leader of our country and the free world than Donald Trump. How did this happen?

You usually think, for example, that your feelings about a given event are primarily reactions to the event itself. It seldom occurs to you that the feelings themselves might be primary, and that the particular event was somehow a response to your emotions, rather than the other way around. (p. 148)

Seth asks us to see our thoughts as real events. So the questions we might ask are “Do I think, believe, and expect that minorities inevitably have to get screwed in our society?” “Do I believe that women always get the short end of the stick?” “Do I carry a hidden belief that bold, cocky people are more likely to get what they want in this capitalistic and media-obsessed society?” You can add other questions to this list based on your own beliefs. However, it seems like the answer to all of these questions is “Undoubtedly, yes.”

Seth reiterates that we cause the events that we perceive; and then, of course, we react to them. The appearance of these events seems to “prove” that these things are happening outside of us and are mostly out of our control. But it is really because we continue to hold our mistaken beliefs, that we keep getting more and more “evidence.”

For those wo believe Donald Trump’s presidency will be a disaster, here’s what Seth has to say:

Often . . . individuals use disasters quite for their own purposes, as an exteriorized force that brings their lives into clear focus . . . Those involved in such disasters –the survivors–often use such ‘larger-than-life circumstances in order to participate in affairs that seem to have greater import than those possessed by previous humdrum existences. They seek the excitement .  . They become a part of history . . . For once, their private lives are identified with a greater source–and from it many derive new strength and vitality . . . The range of private emotions is given greater, fuller, sweep. (p. 99)

It seems to me that the preceding quote applies to both the Trump and Clinton supporters. The Trump people saw “disaster” before the election; the Clinton supporters, after. They all want change, they want to deal with problems that have remained suppressed for too long, and they want to have a say in the kind of country they live in.

We could have chosen a different probability; Clinton could have won; but while things would play out differently in terms of the specifics, the same dramatic elements would be involved. There are issues that need to be dealt with and clearly we all want them out in the open and addressed. I wonder if on an unconscious level the Clinton supporters believed that they would be better able to cope with a Trump victory than the Trump supporters would a Clinton victory.

Somehow, in Framework 2, we all agreed that we could best deal with our goals via a Trump victory. And I do mean best. For Seth assures us that the source (or the force) that animates Framework 2 is always on our side. Framework 2 is the medium through which our growth and development occurs. It is not neutral, in other words. All of the atoms and cells that create our universe contain “a positive intent to cooperate . . . to fulfill themselves, and they [are] predisposed not only toward survival, but with an idealization leading toward the best possible development and maturity” (p. 121) So, we are getting help; we get a little push in a particular direction that might lead us to our goals. Sometimes, though, the path seems convoluted.

The way I look at it is that we decided to give this a try. The Trump supporters have been awakened from their helpless state and now have to take part in improving their own lot through a different belief system than the one that made them stuck in the first place. The Clinton supporters have to re-arouse themselves to take positive steps toward change. They can’t cling on to victim mentality. The engagement that should result will shake things up, which nearly everyone wanted in the first place. We’ll see.

But even if this experiment fails, the nature of reality is such that we will create another event to try to move us in a better direction, and another, and another. That’s what evolution is. Individuals need to feel that their actions count. We all need to come awake into the realization of our own power to create the world.

All particles are psychological particles, with their own impetuses for development and value fulfillment. That is why atoms join together to form matter. They seek the fulfillment of themselves through form. They cooperatively choose the forms they take

If the simplest particle is so endowed with impetus, with hidden ideals that seek fulfillment, then what about the human being? You have the propensity to search for meaning, for love, for cooperative ventures. You have the propensity to form dazzling mental and psychological creations, such as your arts, and sciences and religions and civilizations. Whatever errors that you have made, or gross distortions, even those exist because of your need to find meaning [in] your private existence and [in] life itself. (p. 269)

So what are we to do now? Well, firstly, we need to change our thoughts, expectations, and beliefs.

Your changed beliefs will affect the mental atmosphere of your nation and of the world. (p. 303)

In my next post we will look at the specific steps Seth outlined on how to follow your natural impulses in order to become a practicing idealist–one who really can change the world for the better.

To summarize, Seth says:

  • We create our own reality as individuals and collectively
  • All probabilities exist in Framework 2
  • Our thoughts, beliefs, expectations, and emotions feed into Framework 2 and contribute to the probability that is made manifest
  • No event can be forced on anyone; there has to be acquiescence on some level
  • All events are propelled by value fulfillment, i.e., they are inclined toward our growth and development. And that nudge in a particular direction will always be for the good of all–never at the expense of one for another
  • Once an event materializes, it is up to us how to respond to it
  • We must examine our beliefs and determine which ones involved us in this particular creation.

How should we respond?

You do not dwell upon the unfortunate conditions in your environment, but you do take steps in your own life to express your ideals in whatever way is given. (p. 290)



  1. Seth also advocates helping others and how important that is: I added the CAPS for emphasis only:

    Seth (ESP Class, 12-15-70): I am referring, in the main however, to a deep feeling of oneness with other human beings. The ability to open yourselves up enough so that you can bear to understand the reality of another individual. The more terrified you are personally, the less you dare let down your guard, and you build up psychological walls to protect you. You shove aside the problems of others because they simply remind you of your own. Now, using psychological time and learning to be spontaneous, you can free these abilities within yourself. It will not be an intellectual matter of thinking that you are a part of All That Is. It will, instead, be an emotional awareness of that relationship.

    Seth (ESP Class, 6-11-74): “If you allow your spontaneity its own freedom, then you can quite happily have whatever you want. But spontaneity will also lead you to thoughts of love for others. It will lead you to realize that you cannot plunder your planet, and it will lead you to realize that as long as one person is starving then YOU are starving in ways that YOU are too ignorant to recognize.”

    SETH (June 9, 1984, from ‘Way Toward Health’): “The point is that all of the world’s problems also represent great challenges. Young people in particular are needed to take up the tasks of deregulating and redistributing food sources, and of encouraging nations to join in such a creative venture. Those are worthy and stirring causes, as noble as any that graced any generation in the past. The world needs every hand and eye, and cries out for expression of love and caring.”

    Seth (Class, 8-18-70): “YOU ARE NOW DWELLING IN PHYSICAL REALITY. IT BEHOOVES YOU TO HELP OTHERS. When you take from others, you take from yourselves. When you give to others, you give to yourselves.”

    Barrie Comments: I looked up “behooves” and it means: To be necessary or proper for. Therefore, Seth is saying that “it is necessary or proper for you to help others.”

    Seth (Session 550): “You cannot say, ‘The poor are poor simply because they chose poverty and therefore there is no need for me to help them.’ This attitude can easily draw poverty to you in the next experience.”


    SETH (Session 697): “The race suffers when any of its members die of starvation or disease, even as a whole plant suffers if a group of its leaves are ‘unhappy’. In the same way all members of the species are benefited by the happiness, health, and fulfillment of those individuals who compose it.”

    Seth (Session 426): I am telling you what I know, and there is much I do not know. I KNOW THAT HELP MUST BE GIVEN, ONE TO THE OTHER, AND THAT EXTENSION AND EXPANSION ARE AIDS TO BEING.”

    Seth (Session 897): “Good intent is apparent within your world. It is obvious in the cooperative ventures that unite say, the mineral, plant, and animal kingdoms, the relationship of bee to flower. And your beliefs to the contrary, YOU HAVE CLOSED YOUR MINDS TO MAN’S COOPERATIVE NATURE, TO HIS INNATE DESIRE FOR FELLOWSHIP, HIS NATURAL BENT FOR TAKING CARE OF OTHERS, AND FOR ALTRUISTIC BEHAVIOR.”

    Barrie Comments: By the way, I looked up the word “altruistic” and it means: Unselfish concern for the welfare of others; selflessness.” So, Seth is directly saying that humans have a NATURAL BENT to have an unselfish concern for the welfare of others and that help MUST be given one to the other.

    Seth (June 9, 1984, from Way To Health): “Some people might say, I have a right to die, when they are arguing the case for suicide. And while this is true, IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT THE PEOPLE ON YOUR PLANET NEED EVERY BIT OF HELP AND ENCOURAGEMENT THEY CAN GET FROM EACH PERSON ALIVE. In a certain sense, the energy of each individual DOES keep the world going, and to commit suicide is to refuse a basic, cooperative venture.”

    Seth (ESP Class, 6-18-74): “When you are truly and completely yourselves, you will not hurt others. You will be individual and yourself, and being TRULY individual will mean that there is no need to hurt another.”

    • Hi, Barrie
      Thank you so much for sharing these wonderful Seth quotes. I was enrolled in Rick Stack’s recent Online Seth Conference and very much enjoyed your presentation on Love, The Seth Material, and The Secret . I found it clear, heartfelt, and powerful.

      Here, you are pointing out, just as you did in your presentation, something so basic and integral within all of Seth’s teachings, that it is almost easy to skim over it–that we need to love and encourage each other.

      Let me tell you a quick story. My husband came in from the car the other day where he had been listening to a radio show about giraffes. It explained how giraffes are now on the endangered species list, and also gave some amazing facts about the symbiotic relationship they have with the trees and insects in the territory in which they live. My husband was so surprised to learn how interconnected and dependent all the parts of nature were. He seemed excited about it. It’s so odd how we are moved when we hear these beautiful stories about animals and plants, but somehow we humans see ourselves as separate from all that. Thanks for doing your part to help get the message out about the cooperative venture that is value fulfillment.


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